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3SGTE Camry?!? Keeps up/passes modded R33 GTST, beats R32 GTR's.

Slotted front rotors, custom rear disc setup.

GT-4 gearbox modded to be FWD, can hold 500hp. Drivetrain can hold 400hp

Full Mircrotech LT-8 setup with hand-controller

4" to 3" to 2.5", mandrel bent system, to Genie cannon muffler.

Filled in quarter glass panels with steel (Thanks to S&W Panel and Paint). Usual stickers...

WRX fuel pump, fully cleaned & flowed injectors.

Stainless steel 3" pipe to K&N pod filter.

Speedy Atix-5 hyper chrome, 17" x 8". Perelli rubber 215/40

Alpine deck, the rest is getting there.

Koni shocks, lowered onto king springs

CT26 turbo, rebuilt with steel wheel. Front mount with stainless steel piping and silicone joiners.

Nice, but want to get about 400fwhp, few years away yet.

gotta say that ur 'toy' is fkn awesome! love cars like urs that are different to the run of the mill shit you see all the time, although i cant really talk since i got a vn v8 calais, but dont knock it , fully optioned for $4000 and was me 1st v8. anyways, show em wat u got, leave em 4 dead!

Dont worry mate I do leave most cars for dead, best thing is when some other modded, "run of the mill" car come up next to me and think i've only got an exhaust, then they "try and show me how fast there car is but I nail them every time.

Best one was with a VL turbo that had had about $20k of just engine work done to it, and I was having boost problems, and I beat him, not once, not twice, but about 8 or so times. That was absolute bloody funny as all hell.

Hey turbo camry dude,

I have a camry wagon 89 im wonderin if the 3sgte engine will fit innit. Also how much everything was because im sick of all other taxis like sylines, silvias, 180s, wrxs, vl turbos. I want something really different like the family wagon. Any helps appreciated.

Kev

Hey,

I was just wonderin if the 4efte starlet turbo motor would fit into my camry and if it would be worth putting in there.


Kev man

not worth it, probly spend the same money as me but end up with a slower car.

Hey,

I just bought a gizzmo shift light its got 3 wires positive, negative and a trigger.
Would you know where i could find a trigger wire?

Kev

the Trigger wire would most prob be the rpm signal wire. but dont quote me on that.

good job on the turbo. do you get more lag than you thought you would? That fmic looks a little large for the size of your turbo and could be causing more lag than is normal. well, keep up the good work and keep it Toyota!

i noticed tok's tx turbo in that photo, how does he go against ur camry?

he keeps up with me till 3rd gear then im gone. my problem is rally gear box and stock turbo (ran out of money for a hks2540 or bigger, still undecided.
chaser guy the fmic is there for later on, no point wasting money on temperory parts.

Wot _shadowZ meant to say is that until 3rd or sometimes 4th im infront by 2 or 3 cars, then he catches up and passes. i have to say tho its pretty fast 4A CAMRY LOL seriously tho it is.

HA!!!, try and catch me, now that your turbo is fixed. and running on its pathetic 9 psi.
I still need a different gear box, anyone got a ST205 GT-4 gearbox, for sale??

I LOVE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE WITH YOUR CAR. I was wondering if you could tell me the process that you went through to get your car to where it is. Also if you have to run it on the Microtech or can it be run on the stock ecu with a piggyback like an SAFC or Emange. Also how did you get the tranny to work in fwd configuration as well as how did you wire the ecu up. I am willing to do anything to make my 87 Camry the best that it can be. Thanks for your help. I am serious and willing to spend money.lol Please help me.

Well it's official I can beat R33 GTST's with mods. R32 GTR's are fun to play with now too.

With your rims, im interested in getting some but i dont know the size. What is the offset and nuts dimensions stuff. saw some rims in the trading post but didnt know if they would fit!

size of rims are 17 inch, stud pattern is 5 x 100, don't know offset. Mine are from a wrx. just call up your local tyre store they can tell you what offset the camry is and go from there.

Hey its good to know about your wins...but i just wanted to know if you lost to any one and if so ...what?

The rims cant be from a wrx, the offset is all wrong. im looking for rims as well and the offset for a camry is 35-38 and a wrx is 40-50 so, i dont know how u got them on ur car. did u modify to fit them??

to kevman: lost to most things running over my boost level, some plates iv'e lost to, if anyone is interested, BANNED(on mid boost), SLEEK GTS, SYK 33.

to TRDCamry: the rims are 100% wrx, I used spacers to bring the wheels out a bit (spacers are about 10mm thick.) other than that they fit and work well. they provide good grip.

Yo,

Wonderin if in western australia do you have mod plates? If so do you have one? And have the cops ever pulled you over and give you any trouble??

Cheers kev man

Yeah man i'm in WA. mod plates?!? WTF? I've got engineers certificate and mod PERMITS.
Cops pulling me over...

Police pulling over exsessivly loud camry....................Worrying
Police asking for drivers licence.................................slightly stressed
Police asking to lift the bonnet..................................very worrying
Police shining tourch into engine bay.........................disconcerning
Police saying that the engine and mods are illegal......Meh
Handing the Police engineer cert and mod permits......Classic
Watching police leave in shame................................Priceless

I had once fooled two cops into beliving that the car was an import and all things where stock. One cop saw the permit list and therefore couldn't bust me for anything and then started going off about some loose wires, to pretend he was hot shit.
Cops are a funny bunch, if they don't know what it is or havn't seen it often, then it must be illegal. VL commodores for example, can be in the worst condition but because they see many in the same condition they ignore the faults and continue on.

Nice story..i got one about a mate with a vl turbo and cops pulling him over....cop-"why is your radiator so far in front"........mate-"thats not a radiator its a intercooler"......cop-"whats an intercooler?".......mate-"it cools down the charged air made by the turbo".......cop-"whats a turbo?"........ ..

Another true story....an cop car pulled over a work place health and safety officer for speeding...$180 bucks or sumthun....just as the smart arse cop was walkin away the bloke said hey...."your parked slightly on the road and you don't have witches hats out.....that'll be $300.....also walking out onto a busy highway while working without a safety vest...another $300".....

yeah you could say the look on his face was priceless

hey i noticed that your blow off valve is a trumpet..i thought they were illegal.....don't you have to get them plumbed back to be legal?

Kev

not a true story *lol* its full of shit the work place one is an old email the guys name in it was false occ health and safety had never heard of a officer with that name and the cop involved was a retired officer whom had been out of the force for 10years is a funny story though would be great if it was true

meh..i don't know.....i just heard it off a mate

The BOV was passed over pits at the time of permits and engineers cert, the dude said that as long as it's not loud it is ok. I can make mine quite due to it not opening till higher boost levels. still makes a small noise at lower but not as obvious. Hell I dont care pits paseed my car so stick it up any copper that says otherwise.

Where did you get the exhaust manifold and turbo cover from.

QUOTE (_ShadowZ @ Jul 7 2005, 06:12 PM)

to TRDCamry: the rims are 100% wrx, I used spacers to bring the wheels out a bit (spacers are about 10mm thick.) other than that they fit and work well. they provide good grip.

With the spacers does it give u enough thread to put the wheel nuts on? Why r u using spacers for, does it rub on the insides?

QUOTE (_ShadowZ @ Nov 15 2004, 07:35 PM)

Best one was with a VL turbo that had had about $20k of just engine work done to it, and I was having boost problems, and I beat him, not once, not twice, but about 8 or so times. That was absolute bloody funny as all hell.

Somehow if he has spent $20K on his motor alone he would flog you unless he spent $20K dressing up the motor or unless he had wheelspin throughout the whole race.

exhaust manifold and turbo cover???... Errrr with the 3sgte engine (from a st185 halfcut) thats in the car!!!!!
with the spacers it still gives plenty of room for nuts, as the camry wheels bolts are quite long in comparison to other cars.

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Somehow if he has spent $20K on his motor alone he would flog you unless he spent $20K dressing up the motor or unless he had wheelspin throughout the whole race.

OR unless I spent the same money on mine and have a 500kg lighter car. DIR. even with boost problem i was making 195hp. so 195hp/1300kg VS. 220hp/1850kg. Do the math.

Yo,

with that turbosmart boost controller you can adjust what boost you have each gear right?.....just wonderin what you got yours set for.....and also your diff....is it standard single spinner, locked or lsd or whatever.

kev

QUOTE (_ShadowZ @ Jul 18 2005, 05:29 PM)

OR unless I spent the same money on mine and have a 500kg lighter car. DIR. even with boost problem i was making 195hp. so 195hp/1300kg VS. 220hp/1850kg. Do the math.

I don't think that for $20K his straight six turbo is only producing 220hp i estimate around 350hp plus. Do you always have to speak so harsh u little turd.

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with that turbosmart boost controller you can adjust what boost you have each gear right?.....just wonderin what you got yours set for.....and also your diff....is it standard single spinner, locked or lsd or whatever.

E-Boost can be set for up to three gear changes. Tho E-Boost 2 can be set for up to six. Mine is set so I need to push a button on the e-boost to control boost level. Haven't been bothered to set it for gear selection.
My diff is the gt-4 viscous LSD, with the rear transfer case blocked off. Great for traction.

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I don't think that for $20K his straight six turbo is only producing 220hp i estimate around 350hp plus. Do you always have to speak so harsh u little turd.

First off I only talk harhly to morons that don't know what they are on about... "I" spoke to the guy, "I" saw his engine bay, "I" was beating him. NOT "YOU".
A VL stock runs 87hp($0 spent), a vl stock with aftermarket ecu and 2.5inch exhaust runs 112hp($3000 spent), VL ecu, exhaust, turbo, intercooler and piping, runs 144hp($10,000 spent), VL ecu, exhaust, turbo, intercooler and piping, forged pistons and rods, runs 160hp($14,000 spent), VL ecu, exhaust, turbo, intercooler and piping, runs 144hp($10,000 spent), VL ecu, exhaust, turbo, intercooler and piping, forged pistons and rods, cam shaft, boost controller(10psi), mini-spooldiff, runs 180hp($15,150 spent), After that I don't know what the one i raced had done but this is a list of what a friend of mine has done with his VL Calais.
As you said it is a straight six(with single cam) not a V6, so that would account for the lack of power. To give you an example of single cam to twin cam power differance, I shall use the beloved Telstar, the telstar turbo that is realeased around the world can produce 110hp from factory, with exhaust, air filter and boost, 140hp. There is an american (i think) twin cam version available, though rare, that produces 140hp N/A from the factory.
So in future low tx5 please refrain from commenting shit, especially if you don't know what it is your commenting on...... YOU LITTLE TURD!

I see you got the greddy turbo timer....is it hooked up so u can test ur quarter mile time?...cause i got the exact one and all it does it the count down when i turn it off....and your clutch combo what have u got there??.......... also have u thought about putting your car in the magazine 'fast fours'....have u been in a mag yet?

Kev

ha, turbo timer isn't hooked up yet. had it for about a year but had an over heating prob so no point in setting it up but i have now fixed that so i got to get some time to set it up.
Clutch is a 9 puck super heavy duty, brass button, high tension springs, blah blah blah, LOL, which all equates to instant grab and the need to do weights, to push the clutch in(my mum can't push my clutch in at all). With stock flywheel.
Havn't had anyone ask to put my car in any magazine. Though I would welcome the opurtunity to have some one do a full photo shoot with it.

Wattup,

is your max boost 15psi?

cheers kev dawg

nah. only running 13.5 atm. could go higher but don't want to.

QUOTE (_ShadowZ @ Jul 19 2005, 02:07 PM)

First off I only talk harhly to morons that don't know what they are on about... "I" spoke to the guy, "I" saw his engine bay, "I" was beating him. NOT "YOU". A VL stock runs 87hp($0 spent), a vl stock with aftermarket ecu and 2.5inch exhaust runs 112hp($3000 spent), VL ecu, exhaust, turbo, intercooler and piping, runs 144hp($10,000 spent), VL ecu, exhaust, turbo, intercooler and piping, forged pistons and rods, runs 160hp($14,000 spent), VL ecu, exhaust, turbo, intercooler and piping, runs 144hp($10,000 spent), VL ecu, exhaust, turbo, intercooler and piping, forged pistons and rods, cam shaft, boost controller(10psi), mini-spooldiff, runs 180hp($15,150 spent), After that I don't know what the one i raced had done but this is a list of what a friend of mine has done with his VL Calais. As you said it is a straight six(with single cam) not a V6, so that would account for the lack of power. To give you an example of single cam to twin cam power differance, I shall use the beloved Telstar, the telstar turbo that is realeased around the world can produce 110hp from factory, with exhaust, air filter and boost, 140hp. There is an american (i think) twin cam version available, though rare, that produces 140hp N/A from the factory. So in future low tx5 please refrain from commenting shit, especially if you don't know what it is your commenting on...... YOU LITTLE TURD!

You say a Vl stock has 87hp well go to carsales.com.au and a stock vl non turbo has 114kw (152.874hp) and the turbo has 150kw (201.15) and sorry i'm not stupid mate i've been around alot longer then you have!

Can I be honest shadow I fucking love you car you've done a lot of work to it..but theres still probably a million and one other cars out there that could thrash the pants of yours..so why brag about what you've beaten...i mean hell ive beaten a skyline etc.. etc.. you also ahve to look at value for money..you beat a vl turbo right so he probably brought the car for 7grand spent 20 on it so for 27 he has a car that goes nearly as fast as yours yet you probably brought your car for say 14k (just guessing) and spent a further 20 on it so you spent 34k approx on yours whilst he spent 27k if he put the other 7k you spent into his car he would most probably flog the pants off you boost probelms or not...am I right?? so before ya go saying ya beat this and this car remmber how mcuh you've spent compared to them and how much pwoer they have compared to you...

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You say a Vl stock has 87hp well go to carsales.com.au and a stock vl non turbo has 114kw (152.874hp) and the turbo has 150kw (201.15) and sorry i'm not stupid mate i've been around alot longer then you have!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Carsales.com you belive that bullshit, your dumber than I thought. My friend had a VL non-turbo it now has a VL turbo engine. those figures i STATED are what we have achieved using a dyno and a microtech ltx-12 at ovaboost performance in perth (give em a call if ya want). Go to Calaisturbo.com.au check there power figures. Fuck your a stupid bugger, but your a good laugh.

Zorb i do think as you say, compare money spent. My car cost $3000 to start plus $17,000 for power, so therefore total of $20,000. so thats y i put foward what i've beaten to give other people who want a fast car another option than spending bulk money on an already fast car. spend safe, spend smart. but thanks for your comments anyway.

okay well for 20grand I'd say you've got yourself a realtively fast car no questions asked..but really lets be honest who cares what you've beaten..the guys could have backed off you could have had a rolling start they could have had a boost leak too..it basically means nothing..unless its occured in controlled conditions..but annyways like I said I lvoe the car love what you've done to it..but bagging other people on here is just not worth is especially when they end up spending 20garnd on there car dropping an fe3 in it and turboing that for bout 11grand (plus 5 for the car) and getting approx 170-180kws atw ona car similar in wieght to yours..I mean have a look at a guy called robs tx5 on boostcruising.com if you need proof.

Well for me bragging rights are mine, due to it's not just one single car i have beaten in one single drag, it's multiples of both. Hell i've spent enough money, I deserve the right to carry-on like a chook with his head cut off.
I totally agree with putting in the fe3, it's a smart choice, my friend is considering doing this conversion. GO THE TWINCAM. It's a pity the engine is rare and didn't come standard.

It just annoys me that peoples whole knowlage base is derived from websites that in all fairness has the same credibility as george w bush. I find this type of information only a vague represention of the truth. in other words it gets you part way, but still doesn't give a full picture.

Just a question now... Does anyone know how much a gt30r turbo is going for in the eastern states of aus. in perth it's $2k. retail.

Ive also see a twin t28 set up on a fe3 the are quite easy to get now in OZ come up on ebay probbaly once every 3 weeks and god for between 800-1200bucks they also are available on many websites such as mx6.com for the same sort of rpices (2 have been on mx6.com in the apst month or so) so if ya kno where to look they are readily available...the engine did come standard in the capella (which was available in new zealand) and can be brought from new zealand for approx tthe same price..if you knwo where to look there not that fiar..on the gt30r cheapest Ive seen one here in melboure is 1300 and it required a rebuild Ive seen other for around the 1800 mark.

I was kinda after a brand newey, cos who knows how much it has been flogged.

thats one hell of a sleeper bro. nice work

Nice work there dude, ive put a 3sgte in my 93 Camry, similar mods, made 420Nm atw and 210hp but the dyno didnt know the rpm. (dont know how you can calculate hp without rpm, dont think you can) but it kicks ass. how much torque did you make and at what rpm?
my car is on cardomain.com as "93camrylunatic", check it out some time.
Where are you from, im near wollongong, be good to have a cruise some time, id love to run another 3sgte camry.
keep up the good work. L8r

Hey 93camrylunatic,
Sweet ride you have as well mate.
Don't know about the torque the dyno sheet is buried under a mountain of paper work at my desk. and i'm too slack to look for it. LOL.
That's near sydney yeah? I might be transfering to Coffs Harbour for work and if so the camry will be coming with me, so I guess seeing another turbo camry would be great. LOL.
My camry is waiting on the latest mod ATM. A PWR aliminum radiator with 40mm core.
Also me and a mate are making up full fibreglass door skins, to house my rockford dual component splits. my boot install has been completed just waiting on arrival of a 1000Wrms amp. Got 2 CDT 12in subs. flip up floor amp rack with carpeted cover. space for a rear battery and cap. just need that amp and i'll be laughing.
once those bits are completed i'll have to decide whether I do a exterior re-vamp or a 400hp engine build. God that's a hard choice, both will cost about the same.
Has anybody seen a SV21 with a subtle body kit that doesn't look like a kleenex box??? haha. I can make fun of my own car, cos it's MINE! LOL

Catcha!

hey dude, swt as ride... i jst got my p's..and parents picked up a sv21 for me..
im planing to modify it.. i was jst wondering..where i can pick up clear front and side indicator lights from..and roughly how much do they cost..

cheers..

my front indicators are now fog lights and the indicators are now in the cornerlight position. the side indicators are aftermarket honda civic ones bought from SSS auto parts but any major auto store will be able to by them from SSS for you and get them delivered. only cost about $30. and they fit straight in.

hey, would these fit .. honda civic 96-00 ..

can't remember what year. I just trial fitted untill one type fitted. I was working for an auto parts wholesaler at the time and those corner lights where just some of the altezza items they stocked.
but they do look like the ones I have. give them a go.

Hey dude, i actualy have seen a cool kit on a sv21, its on a rig featured on www.cardomain.com, its a 92 i think, check it out, shouldnt be to hard to find.
Jetspeed also make custom kits for very good prices, they can cut a skyline kit to fit or whatever you want realy, my mate had an old excel (before the round popular shape) with a evo motor in it, he had a n14 pulsar kit modded to fit and it looks sweet. P.S. DONT GO FOR CHEAP SPRAYPAINTERS, YOU GENERALLY GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR, POOR QUALITY OR VERY SLOW WORK. MINE TOOK OVER 9 MONTHS AND 6 COATS OF PAINT ON SOME PARTS.